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Ref. Ares(2017)1114743 - 02/03/2017
Art. 4.1 (b)
(TRADE)
Subject:
RE: TTIP transport: meeting mit Verband Deutscher Verkehrsunternehmen e.V. 
(VDV) on 16 January 2015
Ares(2015)274514 
Report of the meeting with VDV held at DG Trade on 16 January 2015 
Participants:       DG Trade (Art. 4.1 (b)


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  Verband Deutscher Verkehrsunternehmen e.V. (VDV): 


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Art. 4.1 (b)
Art. 4.1 (b)
The meeting was requested by VDV to discuss some issues relating to the TTIP negotiations. COM 
briefly explained the state of play of the TTIP negotiations, how the services commitments work in 
general (drawing some examples from CETA) and how all this relates to existing EU (and member 
States) legislation. 
VDV asked whether any change in transport legislation would be necessary as a result of the TTIP 
negotiations. COM explained that services trade negotiations largely result in binding the existing 
level of liberalisation and therefore do not result in any change in legislation: the main issue is 
therefore to make it certain that the existing market access limitations are correctly reflected in the 
so-called "reservations". The reservations which will be used in TTIP are the result of years of 
discussions with stakeholders and Member States, have been used in several other negotiations 
(most recently in CETA) and should therefore be appropriate to also provide the necessary 
protection in TTIP. However, any input in this respect from VDV is welcome.  
VDV expressed its concerns about the adequate protection of public transport services provided by 
entities controlled by local public authorities ("internal operators"). COM underlined that, in 
particular for public services, a horizontal "public utility reservation" exists which also covers 
transport services subject to monopolies or exclusive rights. This reservation applies in general to all 
public services and has a very broad coverage.   The provision of "in-house services" is not impacted 
by the Government procurement chapter. TTIP would indeed have no impact on the autonomy of 
EU procuring entities to decide whether they purchase a service from an external service provider or 
whether they provide the service in-house as long as they comply with the  conditions set by EU 
Procurement Directives. This can be shown for example by the example of EU procurement 
commitments under CETA,  which contain a clarification (in line with Procurement Directives) that 
the Chapter does not apply to contracts awarded by a procuring entity to an affiliated undertaking. 
The provision of commercial/open access public transport services is normally allowed subject to 
establishment in the EU and in accordance with the rules provided for in the European and Member 
States legislations, which are reflected in specific reservations.  
VDV expressed the concern that our international obligations may limit the margin of manoeuvre of 
our legislators for the future. COM replied that this depends on the reservations which are in place 
(annex I or annex II type). The right to regulate is never put into discussions, but of course once 
certain kinds of obligations are taken at the international level the possibility to render internal 
legislation more restrictive/discriminatory in the future may be substantially reduced. This however 
has nothing to do with TTIP but is the normal consequence of undertaking international obligations, 
in trade as in any other matter. This also applies to obligations taken under the GATS which would 
continue to apply in any case, irrespective of TTIP. 
It was agreed to continue the exchange of views at a later stage.  
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