Ref. Ares(2019)4684865 - 18/07/2019
Ref. Ares(2019)805852 - 11/02/2019
PELTOMAKI Antti Ilmari (GROW)
(GROW); COZIGOU Gwenole (GROW);
Meeting with Eurogas, 11 February 2019
(DG GROW) met with
General on 11 February 2019.
Eurogas explained that:
• Eurogas looks at the whole gas distribution grid in Europe and is committed to contribute to
emission reductions and reduce the carbon footprint of the gas sector.
• Currently only 4% of gas supply is decarbonised, mainly biogas
• Gas and electricity will be a solution on several industries, where gas can provide reliable
bulk energy and feedstock, replacing more emitting fuels (=coal, oil)
• In addition to hydrogen, the only sustainable gas is 2nd generation biogas and gas made from
o A framework for investments needs to be created
o The quantity of both 2nd gen. biogas and waste streams are scarce. Hydrogen seen
as the major way to decarbonise gas grid.
• LNG in shipping could replace oil, with immediate emission reductions with existing
• EU is leader in both hydrogen production (electrolysers) and LNG/CNG engines, which could
be an important competitive advantage in a transition to reduced emissions.
• Italy is projecting 50GW of PV by 2030. It currently has 20GW and is already experiencing
the limitations of the electricity grid. Converting excess electricity to hydrogen at either
distribution grid level or at generation points could enable much higher renewable shares.
o Eurogas wil present a study around June/Sep on financial models that support such
Eurogas asked whether it (and Hydrogen Europe) could join the Clean Energy Industry
Forum [after the meeting advised Eurogas to contact the Arias Canete cabinet or SG.E.2
described the policy context and ongoing initiatives, including:
• The EI initiative and climate neutrality,
• the 2050 goals,
• The Strategic Forum and IPCEI, and other financing possibilities
• That for some industries the investment cycles are long and maybe only one investment cycle
remains to meet the emission reduction objectives 2030
• Solutions need to consider the competitiveness aspects of industry
• Relevant also to the Industry 2030 initiative
• The EII HLG initiative to develop an industrial transformation masterplan this yearand invited
Eurogas to join in the collaborative work with industry, MS and civil society
On Strategic Forum, Eurogas
• expressed interest in taking part in the work -> We’l send an invite as expert),
• wanted to know more about IPCEI. -> We’ll provide with a recent IPCEI presentation from COMP
• was eager to have gas engines included in the low-carbon value chain. On this point JY explained
that it has not been included in the initial proposals but this could be discussed with the
Members if synergies could be found.