Reply to Gestdem 2016/2577
Ref. Ares(2016)2537417 - 01/06/2016
Cabinet Member
Date
Place
Organisation
attending meeting
Minutes
19/04/2016 Brussels
IBM Corporation (IBM)
Commissioner Ansip
No minutes available.
VP: privacy shield, DSM
CEO: support for DSM, continuing innovation, standards participation, we want standards bodies
continue to be strong but now the problem is that innovation as input cost that they want to reduce
(standard essential patents), we should encourage sharing rather than non-sharing. We invest
heavily, we need to monetise. Willing to be part of 5G revolution. Protect innovation process,
support for IP and ICT standards under the DSM
QUALCOMM Inc. (QCOM
22/02/2016 Barcelona
Commissioner Ansip
VP: we need to tackle fragmentation, fair renumeration is our principle both in copyright and IP
(NASDAQ))
rights. FRAND principles are important
CEO: charges against us not fair, we will not charge the value of a car for our chip (re: competition
case)
VP: ICT Standards - we focus on lack of interoperability, e-prescription systems for example.
Digital identities in EE and AT.
Contact: Kamila Kloc
Federation of the European
No minutes found – presentation of work of association and on wearables focus during AA visit
26/01/2016 Munich
Sporting Goods Industry
Commissioner Ansip
of ISPO sports equipment trade fair in Munich. Interoperability, eHealth, data protection and flow,
(FESI)
standards important. AA gave overview of DSM strategy.
The boss of Miele, Mr Zinkann, just had a good meeting with AA on DSM, connected homes,
standardisation, TSM etc. Much support from their side and very helpful agenda. Connect involved
in a lot of work, other parts spread across commission (Grow, RTD, Env, Ener).
CECED (European
Committee of Domestic
02/06/2015 Brussels
Commissioner Ansip
Only area they complained was about energy efficiency reform plans that they were afraid would
Equipment Manufacturers)
mean negative consequences for them, you may be aware from past portfolio :-).
(CECED)
On way out they bumped into GHO who chatted a moment and said he would be happy to arrange
a follow-up meeting on the various aspects (standardisation, connectivity, energy efficiency). They
were of course happy.
Contact: Maximilian Strotmann
Reply to Gestdem 2016/2577
Participants: Vice-President Ansip, Mr Jörgen Gren (Member of Cabinet), Mr Friedrich Smaxwil
(President of CEN), Ms Elena Santiago-Cid (Director General of CEN/CENELEC Management
Centre), Mr Hein Bollens (acting Head of Unit, GROW.J.4)
1. VP emphasised the importance of standardisation and interoperability, and, in particular, the
speed of standardisation setting.
2. Focus is on key actions that would trigger the initiatives and deliverables. One of the challenges
is the implementation of the standards, now fragmented in the EU.
3. VP asked about CEN's focus, the link between innovation and standards as well as the balance
between patents and standards.
4. CEN confirmed the importance of standardisation in the success of the internal market and the
new legislative framework "New Approach".
5. CEN also put the factor "speed" in the context of the need to build strong consensus amongst
their 33 members, which can take time.
18/03/2015 Brussels
CEN-CENELEC
Commissioner Ansip
6. CEN/CENELEC's focus is taken up in their Work Programme, which includes elements of the
"EU Annual Union Work Programme for European Standardisation".
7. CEN/CENELEC clarified that some particular sectors have specific needs with regard to
interoperability (manufacturing, Machine-To-Machine).
8. Internationalisation of standardisation was highlighted (cooperation with ISO, IEC).
9. CEN expressed their view that standardisation is the driver to innovation.
10. A balance should be struck between patenting (protecting) and standardisation (sharing); patent
conflicts can be avoided by negotiating cross-licenses with other market players.
11. VP closed the meeting by enquiring what would be expected from EC and where EC could
assist:
a. Two separate worlds (ICT-non-ICT) should come closer, however, increasing the speed of the
process would be difficult; EC should understand this.
b. A common understanding on work programmes could be considered.
c. The "speed" aspect should rather be understood as "timely" delivery of the standard.
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Subjects discussed:
• Mobile health and the new Iwatch. The importance will be to aggregate data and to share it eg
with your doctors, also poses the question of ownership of data (not discussed)
• Job creation in apps economy, huge numbers of app creators in Europe (700.000 jobs created in
Europe).
• Large Apple investments in Europe eg two new data centres in Ireland and Denmark (driven by
100% renewable energy)
• The importance of privacy matters for Apple, hence their strong focus on customers and their
23/02/2015 Brussels
Apple Inc.
Commissioner Ansip
privacy (and strong encryption on Apple platforms, non encryption only targets the “good guys”).
• M Cook highlighted the importance of proportionality on the data protection side, M Cook agreed
also that trust in the internet is a must, if people do not trust the services they will not use them.
• Discussion on patents and licensing of IPR, strong feelings on applying licensing to what the
patent is enabling and not the whole product (eg less to pay for patents if only part of the product
or a process is factored in for the licence, rather than the finished product eg Ipad)
• Discussion on portability of (Apple) content. Not happy with the idea of being able to carry
Itunes products to android and vice versa; or making apps for IOS available for Android. Full
portability for consumer data/content stored on Icloud (photos etc), this is a non-issue for M Cook.
• M Cook unhappy with forcing common standards for chargers, noting that there is margin for
manoeuvre for innovation also in this area and that mandatory standards (like mini-USB plugs for
telephone chargers) would be detrimental to innovation.
Contact: Jörgen Gren
Reply to Gestdem 2016/2577
Vice-President Ansip (and me) met on Monday 16 February 2015 at 11 Mr Luis Jorge Romero,
ETSI Director General of the European Telecommunications Standards Institute, Mr Simon Hicks,
ETSI General Assembly Chairman and Mrs Margot Dor, ETSI Director Partnerships & EU Affairs.
This was their first meeting since Vice-President Ansip took office in November 2014.
It was a good meeting, they discussed the key role of standardisation to carry out better regulation
and simplify legislation, to increase competitiveness of enterprises and remove barriers of trade at
European
international level.
16/02/2015 Brussels
Telecommunications
Commissioner Ansip
Standards Institute (ETSI)
They also discussed the Digital Single Market strategy that is being prepared and will be adopted
in May and how standardisation can contribute to creating a true DSM. ETSI offered to contribute
and keep a strategical cooperation with the Commission so that standards can be discussed keeping
in mind the policy goals that want to be achieved.
More in detail, ESI underlined that policy makers should decide which standards they want to
promote and make more strategic choices and asked to be more in contact when deciding policies;
to use what is available is not the right policy.
Contact: Jasmin Battista
26/04/2016 Brussels
Ericsson
Maximilian Strotmann
No minutes available.
Hanna Hinrikus, Stig
19/04/2016 Brussels
IBM Corporation (IBM)
Joergen Gren
No minutes available.
QUALCOMM Inc. (QCOM
07/03/2016 Brussels
Maximilian Strotmann
(NASDAQ))
No minutes available.
QUALCOMM Inc. (QCOM
22/02/2016 Barcelona
Kamila Kloc
(NASDAQ))
No minutes available.
Federation of the European
26/01/2016 Munich
Sporting Goods Industry
Maximilian Strotmann
(FESI)
No minutes available.
21/01/2016 Brussels
Orange
Stig Joergen Gren
No minutes available.
18/01/2016 Brussels
Cisco Systems Inc. (Cisco)
Maximilian Strotmann
No minutes available.
15/10/2015 Brussels
InterDigital, Inc.
Maximilian Strotmann
No minutes available.
13/10/2015 Brussels
Nokia
Kamila Kloc
No minutes available.
29/09/2015 Brussels
Orange
Stig Joergen Gren
No minutes available.
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industriAll European Trade
Stig Joergen Gren,
25/09/2015 Brussels
Union (industriAll)
Maximilian Strotmann
No minutes available.
13/09/2015 Brussels
Orange
Maximilian Strotmann
No minutes available.
17/06/2015 Brussels
Cisco Systems Inc. (Cisco)
Maximilian Strotmann
No minutes available.
16/06/2015 Brussels
ORGALIME (ORGALIME) Stig Joergen Gren
No minutes available.
CECED (European
Committee of Domestic
02/06/2015 Brussels
Maximilian Strotmann
Equipment Manufacturers)
(CECED)
No minutes available.
Volkswagen
27/04/2015 Brussels
Aktiengesellschaft
Maximilian Strotmann
(VOLKSWAGEN AG)
No minutes available.
Bayerische Motoren Werke
17/04/2015 Brussels
Aktiengesellschaft (BMW
Maximilian Strotmann
Group)
No minutes available.
Adobe Systems Benelux bv
16/04/2015 Brussels
Maximilian Strotmann
(Adobe)
No minutes available.
09/04/2015 Brussels
Nokia
Kamila Kloc
No minutes available.
18/03/2015 Brussels
Construction Products Europe Stig Joergen Gren
No minutes available.
QUALCOMM Inc. (QCOM
06/03/2015 Brussels
Maximilian Strotmann
(NASDAQ))
No minutes available.
06/03/2015 Brussels
Nokia
Maximilian Strotmann
No minutes available.
23/02/2015 Brussels
Apple Inc.
Stig Joergen Gren
No minutes available.
European
16/02/2015 Brussels
Telecommunications
Jasmin Battista
Standards Institute (ETSI)
No minutes available.