[All redactions are made under Art. 4(1)(b)]
Ref. Ares(2016)5566098 - 26/09/2016
Ref. Ares(2018)6630700 - 21/12/2018
KONIG Helena (TRADE);
Report meeting with 11.11.11 and partner NGOs on Indonesia - 23 Sep 2016
meeting EU-I CEPA
I met on Friday 23 Sep, upon their request, with 11.11.11 (Flemish North-South Movement) and partner
NGOs for a conversation on Indonesia.
Indonesia Corruption Watch (
All in all a friendly exchange with an NGO that traditionally has been very critical of our trade agenda, in
the past anti As and now anti CETA and anti TTIP because of ISDS in particular. Details:
regretted that the Commission does not publicly announce dates of upcoming rounds
in advance. Esp for meetings in the third countries this would allow the local NGOs to prepare,
and possibly organise meetings with chief negotiators and civil society as is done with TTIP. I
recalled that COM is doing unprecedented efforts on transparency, that stakeholder events
within a round are only done for TTIP, and that organization of events with local NGOs is
something we leave to our partner country. If Indonesia would want to set up an event we
would be willing to assess.
Furthermore, we will run a new SIA which will provide for local stakeholder consultation; and
also the EU's TSD chapter provides for an important role of local civil society.
mentioned palm oil and forestry products as being very important sectors of concern
in terms of anti-corruption.
also informed if COM had already tabled a text on
corruption. I underlined the importance of both sectors for the FTA, the importance of the
sustainable development chapter, and that all text proposals, when submitted, would be
published in line with T4A. I also pointed out to the importance of transparency in general and
in public procurement in particular.
was also concerned that the IPR provisions would lead to more expensive medicines
and an even stronger role for large EU pharma companies, which are already supplying 70% of
medicines in Indonesia.
stated that longer data exclusivity rules under CETA would
raise the cost of medicines and affect the Canadian public health sector.
asked if COM would also promote the Investment Court System in the FTA with
Indonesia and recalled the TNI position that the COM reform of the ISDS system remains
mentioned the termination of MS BITs. I pointed out that due to the
termination sunset-clauses now kick in, and that IDN would be well-advised to consider
replacing the BITs by the new ICS system.
also regretted the bias or poor quality of SIAs (e.g. on Myanmar) and suggested COM
should early on publish draft terms of reference for comments (as UK DTI recently did in
remarked that COM has actually asked for comments on the
revised SIA guidelines; I offered to pass any comments on to the evaluation unit.