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Ref. Ares(2015)1103433 - 12/03/2015
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Sent: 
12 March 2015 16:36 
To: 
SCHLEGELMILCH Rupert (TRADE); GARCIA BERCERO Ignacio (TRADE); 
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Cc: 
MUNGENGOVA Jolana (CAB-MALMSTROM);  [Art. 4.1(b)]
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Subject: 
Flash Report: meeting J. Mungengova - ARD/ZDF - 12/03/2015 
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Jolana Mungengova (JM) received this morning [Art. 4.1(b)]  (ARD Liaison Office) and 
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 (ZDF Liaison Office). Objective of the visit was to have a first 
contact with CM's Office, as well as to reiterate some of the companies' concerns in 
TTIP. 
Main arguments raised by the visitors: 
-  Scope of the audiovisual (AV) exemption in a context of convergence, 
technological neutrality, digitalisation, new distribution models, etc. Æ It was 
explained that so far the notion of "audiovisual services" has been kept 
intentionally open in TTIP (as in other negotiations such as JPN or China) in order 
to cater for technological change. COM very much aware of this issue Æ ARD/ZDF: 
important to apply a broad concept of AV, that anticipates technological change; 
we can live with not having a closed definition. 
-  UNESCO convention as part of the EU mandate: there's no perfect overlap 
between protection of cultural diversity and scope of the AV exemption. 
[Out of scope]
-  "Please keep the corridor open" (i.e. don’t reduce EU's policy space to regulate 
AV, regardless of the technical vector) Æ JM: we're obliged to do so under the 
mandate. 
-  Insofar as the AV exclusion does not extend beyond liberalisation, this may create 
problems with respect to investment protection ("as COM implicitly 
acknowledged in the consultation") or regulatory coherence. Why not extending 

the exemption to the whole cultural sector? Æ JM: COM has received mandate 
from the Council. Regulatory cooperation concerns a non-binding exchange of 
information, that doesn’t change the legal framework. EU internal system of 
check and balances. Pre-eminence of the acquis. Importance of Filters. ISDS does 
not include an obligation to change legislation. CETA built-in principles for ISDS: 
transparency; code of good conduct for arbitrators; guarantee that compensation 
will not undermine existing legislation or limit policy space. Concept of 
expropriation / indirect expropriation. 
[Out of scope]
-  TTIP timing Æ JM: if possible under Obama administration, but substance 
prevails under timing. 
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