This is an HTML version of an attachment to the Freedom of Information request 'Meetings with ENTSOG'.



Ref. Ares(2023)5688707 - 21/08/2023

TALKING POINTS 
 
TOPIC: Address the uncertainty: motivate CEOs to invest in 
H2 infrastructure in line with COM’s vision 
 
Main Message: COM has taken major policy and financial 
steps to incentivise investments needed for the (renewable) 
H2 value chain. eg: 
x  Proposal to scale up production and consumption of renewable 
H2 in hard-to-decarbonise sectors under RED-II revision 
o Proposed ambitious targets for renewable hydrogen 
consumption by industry by 2030 (50% of total 
hydrogen consumption) and transport (2.6% of total 
fuel consumption).  
o EP and Council adopted their positions; trilogues start 
soon. 
x H2 and gas markets decarbonisation package: 
o Updates EU gas market rules towards renewable gases eg 
H2. 
o Creates clear rules on how to own, operate and finance 
H2 infrastructure. Encourages gas and electricity grid 
operators to invest in the H2 network. 

 

o New H2 network planning rules. Ensures hydrogen 
system is constructed based on realistic, forward-
looking demand projections.  
x COM assessment of first two waves of Hydrogen IPCEIs.  
o In July, COM approved IPCEI Hy2Tech with EUR 5.4 
bn  for  15 MS, covering 41 projects. Expected to 
unlock EUR 8.8 bn in private investments. 
o  COM just approved IPCEI Hy2USE with EUR 5.2 bn for 
13 MS, covering 35 projects. Expected to unlock EUR 
7 bln in private investments. 
x  RRF = EUR 9.3 bn for H2 projects. 
x  Clean Hydrogen Partnership (EUR 2 billion for 7 years) 
and CEF
x  EU Hydrogen Bank to include further measures to move 
the H2 economy from niche to scale. 
 
TOPIC: H2 and related infrastructure under REPowerEU 
Main Message: Need to speed up H2 infrastructure to 
produce, import and transport 20 mln tonnes of H2 by 2030. 
 
TOPIC: Identifying hydrogen infrastructure priorities 
 
 

x  Estimated investment needs for key H2 infrastructure to 
support domestic and international production: EUR28-38 
billion for EU-internal pipelines and EUR 6-11 billion EUR 
for storage. 
x  Not all demand can be met by domestic production. COM 
will also step up international engagement on H2. Green 
Hydrogen Partnerships to help imports of green H2 while 
supporting decarbonisation in partner countries.  
x  H2 imports to the EU are most cost-effective via pipelines 
from EU neighbourhood. COM will help develop 3 major 
hydrogen import corridors: via the Mediterranean, the 
North Sea area and from Ukraine (as soon as conditions 
allow).  
x  Import of H2 as ammonia and in liquid form is another 
promising way of connecting renewable hotspots around the 
world to future users of renewable H2 and its derivatives.  
x  Important to take into account infrastructure needs to cater for 
the import of H2 carriers and derivatives - also in future 
planning of the most cost-effective H2 network. 
 
Main Message: TEN-E offers an effective European way of 
identifying H2 infrastructure priorities.   

 

x Kick-started H2 infrastructure development - included in revised 
TEN-E Regulation in June. 
x COM + ENTSOG + other key partners will start to identify 
priority H2 needs and projects on 6th PCI list and projects of 
mutual interest (under rev TEN-E Regulation). 
x  These PCIs (EU-internal) and projects of mutual interest (with a 
neighbouring non-EU country) will help identify where trans-
European energy priorities lie. Would benefit from priority 
treatment at national level and may receive CEF support.  
x COM will map preliminary H2 infrastructure needs by March 
2023 (based on the TEN-E Regulation), with MS + national 
regulatory authorities + ACER + ENTSOG + project promoters 
+ others.   
x  3 regional groups will start their work in October.   
x  European Hydrogen Backbone, analyses supply, demand 
and resulting infrastructure priorities in 5 European corridors 
x Given short time until 2030 + limited financial and 
manufacturing resources, I’d be interested in hearing from 
EHB members what the top priority infrastructure are?  
 
TOPIC: Commission vision for the clean hydrogen alliance  

 

Note: DG GROW leads the Alliance, ENER was in touch at short notice 
Main Message:  Value working closely with Alliance to feed 
into COM’s policy work. 
x  Clean Hydrogen Alliance = good example of partnering up 
industry+ innovation ĺ instrumental in cooperation eg for:  
o Identifying  bankable pipelines of projects possibly 
suitable for investors; (DG GROW estimates current 
pipeline of projects at ca. 68 GW of electrolysers to 
produce H2 if implemented by 2030) 
o  Addressing legislative challenges, eg permitting.  
o Joining forces on innovation and scaling up EU 
manufacturing of electrolysis  to  increase ten-fold the 
manufacturing electrolyser capacity in Europe by 2030. 
(following the Industry Summit, May 2022) 
x  Appreciate working closely with  the Alliance to feed into 
COM policy work eg on emerging technical issues  as 
standards for H2 infrastructure, and identifying challenges.  
x  Look forward to discuss Alliance’s Standardisation Roadmap. 
Key elements of the H2 economy = completing necessary 
standards for safely + securely operating emerging H2 networks 
and infrastructure. (Report/Roadmap publication expected in 
December 2022 at the Hydrogen Forum). 

 



DEFENSIVES 
 
New European Network of Network Operators for Hydrogen (ENNOH) in H2 and 
gas markets decarbonisation package 
 
Why did COM propose ENNOH? Why not give ENTSOG responsibility for 
cooperation with H2 network operators? 
x   Future market and infrastructure for hydrogen will not be a copy of the current 
natural gas system.    
x  Eg, major industry and transport hubs will be the main consumers for hydrogen, 
whilst natural gas is delivered to hundreds of millions of households, businesses and 
electricity and heat producers.  
x  The future rules for hydrogen need dedicated reflections and cannot simply copy 
current market rules and infrastructure for natural gas.  
x  We create ENNOH as the governance of the hydrogen network also requires a 
dedicated approach.   
x  Creating a new, separate body for EU-wide coordination of H2 network operators 
reflects our message on the role of hydrogen and on the priority of using it in its pure 
form transported in dedicated hydrogen networks to use in hard-to-decarbonise 
sectors.  
x  The exclusive focus on hydrogen allows ENNOH to better tailor development of 
hydrogen networks to the real needs of the hydrogen markets (demand calculation 
in H2 TYNDP, end-use in hard-to-decarbonise sectors). Gas TSOs can be biased 
towards less efficient use of hydrogen (e.g. blending) and to over-investment to 
prolong the lifetime of natural gas assets. Gas TSOs are strongly interested in 
blending hydrogen into the existing gas network. They have a different concept of 
market and infrastructure development for hydrogen.  
x  ENNOH is better placed to focus on the development of hydrogen valleys and can 
support the longer-term vision towards the hydrogen backbone concept.  
x  At the same time, the sector integration approach is ensured by aligning tasks under 
the TEN-E Regulation and by introducing cooperation obligations for the EU-level 
entities: ENTSO-E, ENTSOG and ENNOH. We are pleased that ENTSOG has  good 
cooperation with ENTSO-E on network planning = excellent basis for future 
cooperationwith ENNOH.  
 
Proposed unbundling rules for the dedicated hydrogen market under the 
hydrogen and gas markets decarbonisation package 
 
Vertical unbundling (= separation production and transport) – Why didn’t the 
Commission offer more flexibility on unbundling rules for the future (dedicated) 
hydrogen market? 


 

x The proposed unbundling rules for dedicated hydrogen markets are often 
perceived stricter than they actually are. 
x  As for natural gas and electricity markets, our proposal for hydrogen network 
regulation is based on the principle of ownership unbundling. This protects 
competition and prevents market abuse by vertically integrated hydrogen 
companies. 
x  The proposed exceptions to this principle (i.e. use of alternative unbundling models 
ISO and ITO; exemptions for existing networks) are aligned with the current and 
expected hydrogen market structure. Compared to gas and electricity networks 
in 2009, there are currently very few vertically integrated hydrogen networks.
 
x  Unbundling of hydrogen network operators under the vertically integrated ITO 
regime is therefore envisaged only as a transitional measure during the market 
start-up phase until 2030
.  
x However, 
vertically integrated gas network operators under the ITO regime and 
other vertically integrated undertakings can retain ownership of hydrogen 
networks after 2030 and accordingly reap the economic benefits of this 
ownership if they delegate the operation of those networks to an independent 
hydrogen network operator. 

 
Vertical unbundling - Why is there no distinction between hydrogen transmission 
and distribution, and no privileged treatment of “hydrogen DSOs” in terms of 
unbundling (as for gas and electricity)? 
x  Firstly, the proposal does not distinguish between transmission and distribution for 
hydrogen.  All hydrogen networks will be subject to the same regulatory 
requirements. 
 
x  This is due to the difference in current market structures: hydrogen will be used 
mainly in hard-to-abate industries and certain transport modes (e.g. buses, 
trucks, ships)
. A widespread switch of households (and thus, a switch of gas 
distribution networks) to hydrogen for heating and cooking = not the most effective 
approach to decarbonisation and value generation. 
x Secondly, 
the market structure for hydrogen will differ from gas. For hydrogen, 
small decentralised production from electrolysers will play a significant role. 
Therefore, safeguarding competition and a level playing field – including 
through strict unbundling – is also important within distribution-level 
networks. 

x  However, gas DSOs that are part of a vertically integrated undertaking can still 
become active in hydrogen transport by repurposing parts of their networks 
(notably to supply connected industrial customers): 
o Until 2030, they can benefit from a derogation from unbundling for 
geographically confined networks (Article 48 Gas Directive proposal). 
o  After 2030, they can retain ownership of their hydrogen networks if they 
delegate the operation to an Independent Hydrogen Network Operator 
(equivalent to ISO unbundling model in gas and electricity). 
 

 

Horizontal unbundling - Why does the Commission proposal envisage stricter 
horizontal unbundling between hydrogen networks and gas/electricity networks? 
x  Also here, the rules are often perceived stricter than they are. 
x  In the hydrogen and gas markets decarbonisation package, operators of gas and 
electricity grids will be allowed to pursue hydrogen network activities, 
provided they create a separate legal entity(legal unbundling). 

x  Our choice for a legal horizontal unbundling regime should safeguard the separation 
of accounts.  
x Our 
key aim is to uphold the principle of cost-reflectivity of tariffs for the use 
of natural gas networks and hydrogen networks (i.e. no cross-subsidies between 
networks). 
x  However, we are well aware that flexibility might be needed in the ramp-up phase of 
the hydrogen network. That is why it will be possible to partially cross-finance the 
development of hydrogen networks with money levied from users of natural gas 
networks.  
x  This possibility is however restricted in time, subject to regulatory approval and the 
additional charges on network users can only be levied at internal points of a 
Member States’ gas network. 
 
Hydrogen infrastructure mapping [an initiative developed by industry in the 
context of the Madrid Forum] 
 
Is there an on-going infrastructure mapping of hydrogen infrastructure projects? 
x  This is an activity of natural gas infrastructure industry (ENTSOG, EHB, GIE, 
CEDEC, Eurogas, GEODE, GD4S) to map all hydrogen infrastructure projects 
collected under different existing processes.  
x  It is important that this mapping assesses the costs/benefits of projects and 
consultats all stakeholders. 
 
Hydrogen infrastructure under the TEN-E 
 
Is there scope for constructing hydrogen-ready pipelines, using them for natural 
gas in the beginning and switching later (and get PCI-status under TEN-E)? 
x  Dedicated hydrogen pipelines - both repurposed from natural gas to hydrogen as 
well as newly constructed ones, or a combination of both - are eligible to apply for 
the 1st PCI list under the revised TEN-E Regulation.  
x  The revised -E Regulation (Art. 31) includes an exemption where dedicated 
hydrogen assets might be used for a predefined blend of hydrogen and natural gas 
for a transitional period until 2029.  
x However, this transitional period applies only to dedicated hydrogen assets 
converted from natural gas assets, i.e. existing natural gas assets, hence a new 
hydrogen pipeline used for natural gas would not fulfil these conditions. 
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x Therefore, 
any 
pipeline which is not yet constructed could apply for PCI status only if 
it can prove it will be used as a dedicated H2 asset from the very start of operation. 
  
 
Can a hydrogen liquefaction (export) terminal get a PCI status under the TEN-E? 
[Portugal might raise the Sines terminal for exporting to Rotterdam] 
x  TEN-E (Annex II) only mentions reception, storage, regasification, decompression.  
 
 
Delegated act additionality/defining renewable hydrogen 
 
Will the Commission go ahead with the presentation of the delegated act on 
additionality/renewable hydrogen after the EP vote on this delegated act? 
x  We respect the position of the EP, and we will take it into account as we 
continue to prepare these delegated acts.  
x  We are assessing the implication of the vote and what it means more broadly forf 
hydrogen. Commissioner Simson intends to discuss this with MEPs.    
x  In any event, we all should understand that project developers are concerned 
that discussions on the criteria during the legislative process could last 
several months. Implementation of the criteria could even take several years. 
The resulting uncertainty about the future regulatory framework would cause 
delays in the ramp-up of  renewable hydrogen production. 
 
Hydrogen bank [Lead to be taken most likely by EVP Timmermans] 
x  The EU Hydrogen Bank, announced by the President during SOTEU, will include 
more measures to move the hydrogen economy from niche to scale, on top of 
our proposed regulatory framework
, the work on hydrogen infrastructure under 
TEN-E and the Clean Hydrogen Alliance.  
x  DG CLIMA has been working on developing Contracts for Difference (CfD) for H2 
production and Carbon Contracts for Difference (CCfD) for H2 applications in 
industry, e.g. steel and chemicals, under the Innovation Fund. CfD auctions for 
hydrogen production, funded and executed by the Innovation Fund, will form 
the core of scaling up the domestic production side of the Hydrogen Bank.
  
x  This instrument would de-risk and create bankability of hydrogen projects, whilst 
ensuring EU-level competition and avoiding over-subsidising projects.  
x The bank should include an international dimension to cater for renewable 
hydrogen imports. We are reflecting on the set-up of this international part. 
 
Blending hydrogen in the existing natural gas grid 
x  Blending hydrogen in the natural gas network is not a long-term solution. It 
reduces the value of hydrogen and changes the quality of the gas consumed in 
Europe. This can affect consumers and fragment the internal market. 
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x Therefore, the hydrogen and gas markets decarbonisation package does not set 
blending requirements at domestic level
x  However, we are aware that some blending is likely to take place in MS, when 
not enough dedicated hydrogen infrastructure is available.  
x  Member States can decide whether, and to what extent, they want to allow blending 
hydrogen in their domestic networks.  
x  The proposal also introduces a 5% hydrogen blending cap for cross-border 
flows and which operators must accept to  safeguard a well-functioning internal 
market.
 
x  [if needed:]: We do not introduce a blending obligation. 
 
 
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 TEN-E key content  
x  The TEN-E regulation sets out clear criteria assessing candidate projects of common 
and mutual interest in the 3 regional groups for hydrogen (Western Europe, Central 
Eastern and South Eastern Europe, Baltic Market).  
x  The final (6th) Union list will be established by consensus between the MS and COM. 
Com expects to adopt it as a delegated act in November 2023.  
x  Categories of hydrogen infrastructure under TEN-E: pipelines (new and repurposed); 
storage facilities; reception, storage and regasification/decompression facilities (pure 
or H2 embedded in other substances); other essential equipment such as 
compressor stations; any equipment to allow use in the transport sector within the 
TEN-T core network; electrolysers with at least 50 MW capacity (and fulfilling other 
sustainability/network-related criteria).  
 
TEN-E key process  
x  Call for candidate projects: mid October-mid December  
x  Public consultation on projects: January-March 2023  
x  Establishment of needs assessment: by March 2023  
x  Project assessment in regional groups: until June 2023  
x  Adoption of final list: November 2023.  
 
 
 
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